Next Meeting: 8 March, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Room. More philosophy of Justice. Robert Nozick, led by Sandy.
8 February, 2023The
group met on 8 February at 10.30 am in the Tesco Community Space.
Present: Bill, Raymond, Damaris, Sandy, Hugh, Ian, Niels, Colin
Apologies: Ritchie, Sonia.
Discussion: John Rawls, led by Sandy.
The question is, how best to agree a fair structure for society. Rawls proposed a thought experiement in which the structure of society is decided by a group of people who cannot know what their own talents and situations are going be within the society they design. From this 'original position', behind a 'veil of ignorance', everyone will be motivated to find a structure for society in which they will not find themselves oppressed. The answer, according to Rawls, is likely to be a rights-based society in which individuals rights to free speech and freedom from oppression are respected as a first priority. And it will be a society largely, though not totally, egalitarian, one in which as a matter of principle (the 'difference principle') economic differences are allowed but only where they can be shown to benefit the least well-off members.
Material:
Political Theory - John Rawls (The School of Life 6’33”)
2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6k08C699zIIntroduction to Rawls - A Theory of Justice (Then and Now 16’26”)
Episode 7 Part 2:
Harvard Lectures of Justice, Lecture 14 (Deal is a Deal, from 23’06” to 55’04")
Michael Sandel introduces the modern philosopher, John Rawls, who argues that a fair set of principles would be those principles we would all agree to if we had to choose rules for our society and no one had any unfair bargaining power.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcL66zx_6NoEpisode 8 Part 1:
Harvard Lectures of Justice, Lecture 15 (What’s a Fair Start, from 0’00” to 24’56”)
Rawls argues that even meritocracy—a distributive system that rewards effort—doesn’t go far enough in leveling the playing field because those who are naturally gifted will always get ahead. Furthermore, says Rawls, the naturally gifted can’t claim much credit because their success often depends on factors as arbitrary as birth order
…and
Episode 8 Part 2:
Lecture 16 (What do we Deserve, from 24’56” to 55’06”)
Sandel discusses the fairness of pay differentials in modern society. He compares the salary of former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor ($200,000) with the salary of television’s Judge Judy ($25 million). Sandel asks, is this fair? According to John Rawls, it is not.
Next Meeting: 22 February, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Room. More philosophy of Justice. Jean-Jacques Rousseau, led by Damaris.
25 January, 2023The
group met on 25 January at 10.30 am in the Tesco Community Space.
Present: Bill, Jane, Damaris, Sandy, Hugh, Ritchie, Ian, Neils.
Apologies: Colin.
Discussion: More Philosophy of Law: Steven Pinker Essay on Reason, led by Hugh.
Pinker argues there are four parts to the best explanation of the current Pandemic of Poppycock:
- Reason is inference deployed in service of a goal. But the goal need not be to gain objective understanding of the world. It could be to win at chess, or just to prove that your opinions, or those of your group, are right.
- Reason is guided by deeply rooted folk intuitions developed in pre-scientific times to help us navigate human life. We intuit dualism, ergo immortal souls and life after death. We intuit purpose in the universe, extrapolating from the way we live our own lives. And we intuit purpose (conspiracy) in our potential enemies. Unfortunately it is true that our enemies may really be out to harm us, and that in our due vigilance false positives may be less costly than false negatives.
- We often don't trust the right 'experts'. None of us justifies all his or her beliefs by reason, we need to find others in whom we repose trust. Political tribalism brings vulnerability here, but tribalism is a deep-rooted human trait, not easily discarded.
- Distal and testable beliefs. Testing is how we form the beliefs we use in everyday life. We also hold beliefs that are difficult or impossible to test. Many of these don't normally impact us practically, but sometimes they do become important, and often they are important for others we don't normally meet, but who may come knocking.
How to advance rational beliefs? Pinker says stop politicising our truth-seeking institutions, because it stokes the crippling my-side bias. Universities, scientific societies, scholarly journals, public-interest nonprofits have increasingly been branding themselves with woke boilerplate and left-wing shibboleths. The institutions are then blown off by the centre and right which make up a majority of the population. The results have been disastrous, including resistance to climate action and vaccination. The defence of freedom of speech and thought must not be allowed to suffer that fate.
The creed of universal truth-seeking is not the natural human way of believing. Submitting all of one's beliefs to the trials of reason and evidence is cognitively unnatural. The norms and institutions that support this radical creed are constantly undermined by our backsliding into tribalism and magical thinking, and must constantly be cherished and secured.
Material:
Steven Pinker essay:
Pandemic of `PoppycockWhen Erika Christakis emailed students for whom she had pastoral responsibility suggesting they might want to reflect on whether Yale students really wanted close guidance from the University administration on what Halloween costumes were permissible on campus, the resulting student reaction induced her to resign her job. Her husband Nicholas, one of the University's most distinguished professors, tried
conversing with students.
Idealogy stomps all over chemistry in a
new paper
(Don't miss the paragraph at the end where the AI robot, chatGBT is asked to shed some wisdom. If you don't know about chatGBT you have a treat in store. It's an AI service that provides extended written answers to questions you may ask. Really cool. Sign up and give it a try:
https://chat.openai.com/chat )
Dealing with poppycock:
Next Meeting: 8 February, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Space. More Philosophy of Law: John Rawls, A Theory of Justice - The Original Position and The Veil of Ignorance. Sandy to lead.
11 January 2023The
group met on 11 January at 10.30 am in the Tesco Community Space.
Present: Bill, Damaris, Colin, Sandy, Hugh, Ritchie, Raymond.
Apologies: Ian, Catherine (on Sabbatical).
Discussion: More Philosophy of Law: Foundations, led by Hugh.
Socrates: is justice a moral good, or merely a convenient framework for behaviour, e.g. driving on the same side of the road?
Aristotle: Is justice necessary for the human telos (purpose), i.e. human flourishing?
John Locke: attribution of inalienable human rights, including the right to own property, that take precedence over authority of monarch or state and need protecting in law.
Adam Smith: the right to own and exchange property becomes the basis for a more efficient system of wealth production, with partners making what they they're good at making and trading freely for produce made on the same basis by others.
Material:
Short videos:
Janux - Dr Kyle Harper: Socrates - Law and Justice in the Ideal State
4m31sJanux - Dr Kyle Harper: Aristotle on Property
7m17sThe Fraser Institute: John Locke
2m19s The School of Life: John Locke
9m13sJohn McMurtry::John Locke and Adam Smith
4m40sNext Meeting: 25 January, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Space. Steven Pinker essay, '
Reason to Believe', addressing the 'Pandemic of Poppycock' and the supplanting of law by 'witch-hunt' in academia's flight from truth. Hugh to lead.
30 November
The group met on Nov 30 at 10.30 am in the Tesco Training Room.
Present: Bill, Catherine, Damaris, Ian, Colin, Sandy, Hugh, Ritchie.
Apologies: Raymond.
Discussion: More Philosophy of Law: Penology, led by Ritchie. How is law enforced? Are people always in control of their own behaviour? What is the rationale for punishing lawbreakers? Retribution, reform, deterrence or containment?
Material:
TED TALK Philip Zimbardo - Describes how good folk can do evil.
TED TALK William Faber: Fair Punishment - William Faber's daughter was the victim of a brutal murder. Faber describes his concern with the way the awful nature of serious crimes can be presented to spare us from reality - If Judges, Lawyers and Journalists do not reveal the full facts is justice served?
TED TALK Mai Ness - The Power of Epigenetics and its implications for criminology.
Next Meeting: 11 January, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Space, if available. More philosophy of law: Philosophy of the State, led by Hugh.
16 NovemberThe group met on 16 Nov at 10.30 am in the Tesco Community Space.
Present: Bill, Catherine, Damaris, Ian, Raymond, Colin, Sandy, Hugh, Ritchie, Marcus (Reid).
Apologies: Jane, Pat, Alicia.
Welcome: The Group welcomed Marcus Reid, visiting to see whether he might wish to join.
Discussion: More Philosophy of Law, led by Catherine. The Group discussed the life and ideas of Thomas Paine, whose work questioned the principle of hereditary rule and was influential in motivating the American and French revolutions. Catherine had just returned from a visit to the USA, where she had visited Philadelphia and gazed upon the Bell of Liberty.
Material: Locke reprise. Short
video summarising Locke's concepts of the social contract and of natural rights.
Next Meeting: 30 November, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Space. More philosophy of law: Penology, led by Ritchie.
2 NovemberThe
group met on Nov 2 at 10.30 am in the Tesco Community Space.
Present: Bill, Catherine, Damaris, Ian, Raymond, Colin, Hugh
Apologies: Jane, Ritchie, Catherine, Sandy, Pat, Alicia
Discussion: More Philosophy of Law, led by Bill. The Group discussed the life and ideas of John Locke, including Locke's 'tabula rasa' empiricism (no innate ideas), his effort to distinguish between primary and secondary qualities in an object that exists in the external world, and his concept of the 'social compact' to which he argued we all consent by virtue of our willingness to draw advantage from the society we live in, and which society's functioning requires a government we are obliged thereby to obey.
Next Meeting: 16 November, 10.30 am, Tesco Community Space. More philosophy of law: Thomas Paine, led by Catherine.
19 OctoberThe
group met on Oct 19 at 10.30 am in the Tesco Community Space.
Present: Bill, Pat, Damaris, Ian, Raymond, Alicia, Hugh,
Apologies: Jane, Ritchie, Catherine, Sandy
Next Meeting: Wed 2 November, 10.30 am, Tesco. More law and governance. Bill to lead on John Locke